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    You know... katanas really aren't that heavy. There are alot of 1 handed swords I've seen in FFXI that look much heavier than the katanas. I don't think that katanas (I do not call them "great katanas" because FFXI misslabels them. The ninja's "katana" should be called kodachi, and the samurai's just katana) should be just as heavy as a great sword. I mean seriously, compare the amount of metal a great sword has compared to a katana.
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    Forgive my sin, never feel you again.
    You won't remember the time we were in love."

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      Meh, but at the same time, a typical samurai would not go in flailing his sword, he'd make slow, certain, precise cuts-- focus~.

      And there are too many types of what they label as both "katana" and "great katana." I don't really mind the naming scheme, because you generally get the idea. Not all of the blades are necessarily kodachi or katana. There are kunai, ninjato, katana, tachi, uchigatana, etc represented visually. No matter what you try and label a group of weapons, there will be exceptions an inaccuracies. Hell, they may as well just label them "ninja swords" and "samurai swords."
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        the only main problem i have with the "ninja swords" is that they're so limited...

        and most of them are pretty crappy...

        >_<

        right now...i'm lvl'ing war up a bit...

        i love duel wielding 2 axes...
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          One last question: Sony sells cards for this like they do for Everquest, right? My credit card's not come in yet, so I've got to hope that they do.
          Edit: Many thanks, Aelice. That actually does help quite a bit. Really. No sarcasm. It sounds like I'm going to enjoy meleeing more then in EQ.
          Last edited by RPGuru1331; March 16th, 2004, 12:55 AM.
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            i don't think they sell pre-paid cards yet...

            but i think later on they'll add them...

            i think you can get one of those visa gift cards or whatever...

            and that works...
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              Seeing as how I'll be starting soon, any basic tips for a thief?
              "From now on, I will not try to reason with the idiots I encounter. I will dismiss them by waving my paw and saying 'Bah'"-Dogbert
              "Hurry hurry hurry, step on up! Everybody plays, only I win"-Dogbert
              I think this describes most music, to be honest.

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                I'm no thf expert, but from what I've heard, and from leveling thf to 15, you should not use dagger to start out with. You should get a sword and level that first because at 15 you get Sneak Attack and none of the early weapon skills for dagger work with Sneak Attack. But the first weapon skill for sword, Fast Blade, does work with it. But once you are a high enough level to learn Viper Bite with the dagger (I don't know what level exactly, Michael does, I'm sure) then you should switch to dagger and use that from then on.

                I've actually been considering leveling my thf somemore, so my stats are a little higher when I farm with my Samurai. I had an extremely terrible day yesterday, and I don't feel like complaining about it anymore, so I'll leave it at that. So I wanted to do something different. I don't want to even think about high level crap right now. Whether its AF quests or level cap quests, I hate it all right now and I don't want to even think about any of it.
                "Once you were mine. Oh, my soul...
                Going high and falling into the dark again... Forgive my heart, never see you again.
                I will remember love was illusion.
                Don't turn around, I will go away... Leave you at the middle of nowhere in hell.
                Forgive my sin, never feel you again.
                You won't remember the time we were in love."

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                  Viper Bite is Lv 33 for a thief.

                  Aside from that... I recommend starting as a warrior. I know, it's not really what you want to do, but there's a reason I say this. You can't equip a subjob until completing the quest at Level 18. I say start with warrior because hands down the best sub for a thief is warrior. Ninja is just for kicks until you get double attack, really. Berserk is nice, but so is utsusemi if you're pulling. Anyway-- leveling war to 18 will save you trouble in the long run if you plan on staying with thief beyond 30. Figure it this way-- 1-18 sucks, but at least once it's over, you don't have to ever worry about leveling your sub until 37-38. You can take thief straight through. Also, level warrior with sword. Once you're 18 and you can equip a subjob, pick up a Lv12 Dagger. Equip it on your warrior, and run around killing easy stuff (heck, go outside of Windurst and fight Crawlers with it, gather stacks of silk thread and sell them on the Auction House for big moneys). Try to get your skill at least to 10 for your first weapon skill (Wasp Sting). Then start your life as a thf/war. Level with a sword, as Hiko said. However, when you get to Level 12 with thief, you can start using groups to practice your dagger. Spend some time in the group using your dagger and try to keep your skill with it up. This will save you the trouble of trying to grind 100 skill later when you're level 30. Dagger hits really fast, once you get started it won't take long at all to cap off at each new level. Max out your dagger as soon as possible each level, then switch back to sword. Until 18, your sword will remain capped, so you don't have to worry about that. After 18 it'll go up steadily.

                  Aside from that, just learn from what to steal from, and what you can get. Try to work out skillchains with your groups so that you are the last person in the chain, and you use Fast Blade. Make sure to let people know your sneak attack timer so that when you do a skillchain, you can sneak then fast blade for a ton of damage. Thief is a really good class when played correctly. Plus you'll be loved for both of your Treasure Hunter abilities. 1-33 is a long road, but as soon as you can start doing distortion skillchains with sneak+trick>viper bite, things will start to pick up.

                  As for myself. I spent literally 24 hours on seek without a single invite, haha. Given, I wasn't staring at my monitor the whole time, I went to sleep, ate, etc. I just left my character sitting in my mog house with seek up the whole time. Earlier today I finally did get a group, we made nearly 10,000 exp in a couple hours, which puts me just over half way through level 55. Still no The Boyahda Tree key, which is depressing. Our group started off trying the Robber Crabs there... a coffer was up, and I don't have a key there yet. >_< I need to open the coffer for my AF gauntlets. My gauntlets are level 56, I have a feeling I'm not going to have them right away. Honestly, my +3 accuracy gloves are better than my AF, but I'm still going to wear my AF at all times (sans helm in exp groups). I finally did get my first Sniper's ring, but I think I'm going to sell it after I get a bit into 56. When I bought it, I was using two +2 dex rings, as well as a spike necklace (3str3dex). I figured I may as well replace to lower dex given also the necklace has 3str on it. But afterwards I got to thinking. That ring cost me 320,000G. With that money, I could buy a Merman's Gorget, which also gives +5 accuracy (I lose 3str though), but I could also buy my Lv60 +7 accuracy Grand Knight's Lance. Honestly, it'd be nice to have that waiting for me the moment I hit 60-- giving me a total of +22-25 accuracy (depending on which gloves I'm wearing) as opposed to the +18 I have now. Also, I wouldn't have to farm the 100,000G for the lance >after< I leveled. My focus would be on farming 600,000G for two snipers, then another 200,000G for my Valkyrie's Mask. Overall putting me at +32-35 Accuracy. :D After those items comes the Spike Earrings, a set for 110,000G. Oh the money I have to farm soon. Oh well, I have four and a half levels until I have to worry about it.

                  Today worked our well though, three of the people I was partied with today (pld, whm, drk) all decided to form a "perma party" ie, if we're all six are on, we stick together and level. A guaranteed group. They got some of their friends in on it too, so our perma party will be pld drg drk whm rdm thf. 55-60 won't be too bad when I no longer have to seek. :D

                  And on a random note, if any of you guys starting with th PS2 release happen to come over to Odin by means of either world pass or rerolling your character, I'd be glad to help you out with advanced jobs and Rank 4 and 5 missions when I have time, and you get to those levels~.

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                  War 30, finally, yaaaaay. Also, I ran into the Japanese Dragoon that helped me and my friends unlock the dragoon class again today. Last time I ran into him was when I was 49, and he offered to help with my AF. Of course, my AF doesn't require that much help until the helmet (or so I'm told the helmet quest sucks-- anyway), so I haven't really asked him. But apparently the other day he forked over 1,200,000G for a Colossal Lance, and retired the Grand Knight's Lance he was using... and upon seeing me today, asked me if I had it, when I said I was saving for it, he handed me his. He is the man.
                  Last edited by Michael; March 19th, 2004, 11:44 PM.
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                    .....
                    That entire post was Greek. Bear in mind, I've not started. I'm sorry, I know it'll be useful, and that I'll thank you after I understand it, but some things just can't quite be explained until you've made and screwed up a few characters. (100 hours spent listening to EQ people, 10 hours spent playing before I got playing the game right.)
                    "From now on, I will not try to reason with the idiots I encounter. I will dismiss them by waving my paw and saying 'Bah'"-Dogbert
                    "Hurry hurry hurry, step on up! Everybody plays, only I win"-Dogbert
                    I think this describes most music, to be honest.

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                      Yeah, you'll understand it all once you get started, heh. I don't think I could make a decent guide for you to read before you start the game without analyzing like every feature of the game. =p

                      As for me~ I got my The Boyahda Tree key, opened it and killed Dark Spark last night, Drachen Finger Gauntlets: check. Started the quest for my Drachen Armet, talked to all the NPCs, got my item form the Kuftal Tunnel Coffer, talked to all the NPCs again. Now all I have to do is find help for killing the NM in Temple of Uggilapeh or whatever. Only one battle away from having all of my dragoon AF-- wooo.
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                        As of right now, in one month I should have access to Final Fantasy XI, now, I want to start in Leviathan. I might luck out and land in it, but I want my friend to get there too. We both want to use that as our main server, so I know you must create a new character for the new server, but I don't want to be charged extra for it, seeing as how both me and my brother will be on the same account with different characters. How can I set this up?
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                          so you want to be on leviathan for you and your friend?

                          how about your brother?

                          during your first month you can create as many handles as you want i believe...

                          as long as you delete them before the end of the month...

                          me and my brother's share an account...

                          i got a world pass to ragnarok from my cousin...

                          and after that all my characters are made on ragnarok...

                          unless you want to go somewhere else...

                          i'm sure someone can get you a world pass to leviathan...

                          i'm not sure if thats what you were asking...

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                            I finally beat the dragon for M2-3 in Sand D'oria. Now next is getting the three keys for the airhship pass so I can lv up in Kazam where all my friends are at the moment.

                            My fishing skill is going no where I am about to give up on fishing entirely. Spent 4 hours fishing and catched 2 crayfish..... I don't have any more patience than that.

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                              Just a question about player names.

                              Is it like email addresses and message boards where if one person got that name, then no one else can have it (w/o adding numbers at the end). Like say if I wanna name my black mage Vivi, but some other guy got that name, would I have to name him something like Vivi123? (BTW thats not really what i want to name my character, thats just the first name i came up with)

                              Or is it just like whatever, you want the name, you got it?
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                                Names can only use the 26 letters of the english alphabet, nothing else.

                                If someone already has the name, you're out of luck-- come up with a new one.

                                Hoho, I spent majority of my weekend on seek, I finally got a group today, first group in a couple of days, made a total of 2000 experience in like 3-4 hours, which is absolutely terrible. One death was included in that, even without the death, terrible overall gain. =/ After that group disbanded, I did a search of seeking players my level, 3 drk 2 drg, decided not to even bother. I started leveling monk again today for days when my perma group isn't meeting, so long as it's not an extended break (we don't do anything Friday-Monday). I'm looking at it as a possible "get rich quick" scheme. Not necessarily quick, but I plan on whoring myself out to a BCNM LS and being a BCNM40 monk. 32 now, I might even just go for 41 to play with Raging Fists. I'm really hoping the perma group thing works out though, seeking is a freaking nightmare 50-60. Either support super damage melee are severly overpopulated at the time you're seeking, or all the key classes are questing at the time you're seeking. omg, I want keys, omg I want to quest AF, omg I want to get R6, omg limit quests! >_< When I met my perma party, there was one group our level actually hunting for exp. There were enough people seeking to make three more groups, but the key rdms and brds were all doing AF quests. >_<

                                It really sucks that the best exp at my level are crabs or crawlers. ie, two mob types that use a defensive skill that must be dispelled. Without a dispel, it takes entirely too long to kill one pull. It's rediculous. =/
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